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Over-Looped
by John Siegenthaler, P.E.
September 20, 2009

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The Glitch

Overview: An installer decides to use a parallel primary loop because he wants hydraulic separation between several simultaneously operating circulators of different size. He also wants the same supply water temperature to each load.

He pipes up the system as shown. It takes him half a day to get the air out of the system at start-up. Once it’s in operation, some of the circulators are experiencing overheating issues. There’s also heat getting into zones when that heat is not needed.

Exercise: Can you spot the details that are causing these glitches?


The Fix

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The Fix -- Figure 1
The Fix - Figure 1
The parallel primary loop should not have the extra riser at the far right (e.g. the one with no connected load). Its presence allows much of the primary flow to bypass the normal risers (which have slightly high flow resistance).

The solution is shown in Figure 1. Notice that check valves have been added to each secondary circuit to prevent off-cycle heat migration. Balancing valves have been added to each crossover to adjust flows in proportion to the load served by each secondary circuit. Purging valves have also been added to the return side of each secondary circuit to make air removal quick and easy.


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The Fix -- Figure 2
The Fix - Figure 2
Another option is shown in Figure 2: Eliminate the parallel primary loop all together and use a set of low-flow resistance headers (sized for maximum flow velocity of 2 feet per second). This effectively eliminates pump interaction and provides the same water temperature to each load circuit without the complications and extra hardware needed for a parallel primary loop system.  


John Siegenthaler, P.E.
john@hydronicpros.com
John Siegenthaler, P.E., is principal of Appropriate Designs, a consulting engineering firm in Holland Patent, N.Y., and author of the text “Modern Hydronic Heating.” Visit www.hydronicpros.com for information on new software for hydronic system design and documentation. John is also the contributing editor to PM's monthly "The Glitch & The Fix" column, which offers hydronic troubleshooting solutions in conjuction with the magazine's twice-monthly Radiant & Hydronics eNews newsletter. You can reach John by e-mail at john@hydronicpros.com.

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  Comments (4)Post a Comment
Title: Over-Looped


I suspect unequal flow created by non-reverse return piping to be the root cause. Likewise for the air trapping problem. Flow checks for the zone pumps would prevent convective circulation in those zones not calling for heat.


Title: Пара слов по содержанию


У данной публикации неформальный, четко выраженный информативный стиль, большое спасибо Вам!


Title: over-looped


When you hook up a hose to the boiler drain at each circuit and close its ball valve, How does water flow get past the check valve at the pump?


Title: Over- Looped


Water in the system is pressurized, therefore if you close off the ball valve and open the purge valve the pressure in the system will cause water to flow through the circuit you are purging, the fill valve will allow water to flow to maintain the pressure it is set to.
The only problem I see is that in your illustration of the first fix figure one you still have the riser that you said should not be there.


 

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